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	<title>Counting My Pennies &#187; suze orman</title>
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		<title>Baby, that&#8217;s a big emergency fund you&#8217;ve got there</title>
		<link>http://www.countingmypennies.com/2009/03/25/baby-thats-a-big-emergency-fund-youve-got-there/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In a recent article on her website, Suze Orman discusses a change in her recommended credit card strategy.  This is one of the things I like about Suze Orman &#8211; her suggestions change based on the economic situation, and she understands that financial advice varies person to person.  The meat of her article is about [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a recent article on her website, Suze Orman <a href="http://www.suzeorman.com/igsbase/igstemplate.cfm?SRC=SP&amp;SRCN=suzescoop&amp;GnavID=1&amp;SnavID=134&amp;NewsID=17">discusses a change in her recommended credit card strategy</a>.  This is one of the things I like about Suze Orman &#8211; her suggestions change based on the economic situation, and she understands that financial advice varies person to person.  The meat of her article is about how people with high credit card debt and not much savings shouldn&#8217;t work on paying off the debt and instead should pay the minimum and make it &#8220;top priority&#8221; to build up as much savings as possible.  Why?  Because the credit card companies don&#8217;t care about you, and with unemployment rising, it&#8217;s important that you have a way to protect yourself.  You could get your card paid off, and then the company could close your account for no reason.  Should you then lose your job, you suddenly don&#8217;t have a way to pay your bills.</p>
<div>Of course, I&#8217;m a firm believer in emergency funds.  But midway through, Suze drops a bit of a bombshell.  She recommends a fund to cover 8 months worth of expenses.  8 months!  I suppose I do have 8 months worth of expenses in savings, but that&#8217;s if I raid both the emergency fund and my savings account.  Of course, I can&#8217;t say that this is a bad idea.  A big emergency fund is never a bad idea.  But I admit, I have to wonder.  Just how long would it take to build up an 8 month emergency fund?  </div>
<div>If I were starting from scratch, my first thought is that this would easily take over a year.  After all, I don&#8217;t make two months worth of expenses in one month.  But there are those three paycheck months that would help.  And while I categorize my deposit into my long term savings account an expense, it wouldn&#8217;t be part of the expenses while using the fund, so I could cut that out while working to build an emergency fund.  If I really had no savings at all, I guess I could also cut out my Roth IRA contributions.  I can&#8217;t imagine dropping my TSP contribution though &#8211; my agency matches 5%, which is essentially free money.  I don&#8217;t spend much on dining out, but cutting that down to one casual lunch a month would help, and cutting back to the bare minimum on groceries would certainly save money.  </div>
<div>This has made me think again about my emergency fund.  I know that it has between 5 and 6 months of expenses, but that&#8217;s a rough estimate based on my normal monthly spending.  It&#8217;s probably closer to 7 months, if I think about the bare minimum of my expenses.  So perhaps 8 months isn&#8217;t all that crazy.  But it feels like a lot.</div>
<div>How&#8217;s your emergency fund?  Closer to the standard 4-6 months?  At Suze&#8217;s recommended 8 months?  More?</div>
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		<title>Economic Woes</title>
		<link>http://www.countingmypennies.com/2008/09/18/economic-woes/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not even sure where to begin a post on the economy.  Stocks took the biggest hit since the tragedy of 9/11/01.  Then the Fed announced a bailout of AIG.  Now we hear that even the FDIC&#8217;s funds are dwindling and they might need a loan from Treasury to keep their funds at the Congressionally [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not even sure where to begin a post on the economy.  Stocks took the biggest hit since the tragedy of 9/11/01.  Then the Fed announced a bailout of AIG.  Now we hear that even the <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26747301/">FDIC&#8217;s funds are dwindling</a> and they might need a loan from Treasury to keep their funds at the Congressionally mandated levels. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/personal/09/17/lkl.suze.orman/index.html?eref=rss_us">Suze Orman spoke with Larry King</a> about the AIG bailout.  I very much enjoy Suze&#8217;s show and her books, so I&#8217;m always interested to hear what she has to say.  For those of you not interested in the article itself, she basically says that she thinks the bailout was a good idea, but this particular section caught my eye:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;<strong><strong>King:</strong></strong> Is this a good time to get into the market?&#8221;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong><strong>&#8220;Orman:</strong></strong> No. It&#8217;s not a good time to get in with brand-new money. I would let these markets kind of wash themselves out. On the other hand, if you&#8217;re investing in a 401k every month with small amounts of money, that&#8217;s OK as long as you don&#8217;t need the money for 10, 15, 20 years. If you just got an inheritance and you have $50,000, should you be putting it in the stock market now? Are you kidding? These are the markets that you just sit on the sidelines and wait on the sidelines and stay away from them until everything works out.&#8221;</p>
<p>I thought this was a very interesting point, since I feel like the lesson is often &#8220;Buy low!  Sell high!&#8221;  Of course, we can&#8217;t guarantee that we&#8217;re actually at the low point of the market right now. </p>
<p>This weekend, while watching Suze&#8217;s show, she said another thing that surprised me.  She was talking with a couple who put money into a Roth IRA and the fund they chose ultimately tanked.  Their problem was letting their advisor put all of their money into one fund rather than diversifying, but she also told them that they should have pulled their money from that fund much earlier (before it lost 70%).  I was quite surprised to hear that about a retirement account, to be honest.</p>
<p>Based on a lot of this information, I made what I hope is not a rash decision earlier this week.  In my TSP (government version of a 401(k)), I had been investing in a target retirement date fund.  Which has now lost 15% over the past year.  Not the world&#8217;s best return.  So I pulled all my money from that fund and divided it between the two TSP fund options that actually had positive returns over the past year.  The returns are not great, and I would be getting better returns just putting my money into an ING Direct Savings Account.  Of course, that&#8217;s not exactly an option for a TSP or 401(k) (plus I wouldn&#8217;t be getting the match). </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if this was the smartest decision or not.  i don&#8217;t need my retirement funds for a long time.  But it has been so disheartening to watch the money disappearing.  As soon as it looks like the market is going to swing back upward and start to recover, I plan to move the funds from the &#8220;safe&#8221; funds again.  But it will be nice to not see that number plummeting every month.</p>
<p>My Roth IRA is another story.  I&#8217;m just letting that ride for now. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m easily 30 years from retirement, so I&#8217;m not sure that I needed to move my TSP funds.  But along the same lines, I&#8217;m easily 30 years from retirement, so will moving the funds now make that big of a difference later?  Thinking along those lines, if I feel better about moving the money and seeing it grow a tiny bit rather than plummet like crazy, then perhaps it&#8217;s the best decision for the moment after all.</p>
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		<title>YF&amp;B Update</title>
		<link>http://www.countingmypennies.com/2008/05/17/yfb-update/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>So the original plan was to have two more chapter reviews in the queue for posting while I was on vacation.</p>
<p>Obviously, since you&#8217;re reading this, that didn&#8217;t happen. But I do have entries written and scheduled to post while I&#8217;m gone. I&#8217;ll be back after Memorial Day, and chapter reviews will resume on May 31st.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the original plan was to have two more chapter reviews in the queue for posting while I was on vacation.</p>
<p>Obviously, since you&#8217;re reading this, that didn&#8217;t happen. But I do have entries written and scheduled to post while I&#8217;m gone. I&#8217;ll be back after Memorial Day, and chapter reviews will resume on May 31st.</p>
<p>Best laid plans&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Book Review &#8211; The Money Book for the Young, Fabulous, &amp; Broke (Part 1)</title>
		<link>http://www.countingmypennies.com/2008/05/10/book-review-the-money-book-for-the-young-fabulous-broke-part-1/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m always looking for new things to blog about, and while rearranging some shelves last night, I decided that perhaps some personal finance book reviews might be a nice addition.  If nothing else, it never hurts me to go back through these books in detail.</p>
<p>The first book to be reviewed is The Money Book [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m always looking for new things to blog about, and while rearranging some shelves last night, I decided that perhaps some personal finance book reviews might be a nice addition.  If nothing else, it never hurts me to go back through these books in detail.</p>
<p>The first book to be reviewed is <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FMoney-Book-Young-Fabulous-Broke%2Fdp%2F1594482241&amp;tag=elbowglitterfinance-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325">The Money Book for the Young, Fabulous &amp; Broke</a> by Suze Orman.  As you may have noticed, I&#8217;ve listed YF&amp;B as one of my favorite PF books over on my sidebar.  This was really the first PF book I read, upon suggestion of a friend.  She raved about the advice contained within, so I decided it was time to check it out.</p>
<p>As can be gleaned from the title, the book is aimed at what is being termed &#8220;Generation Debt,&#8221; those of us between 25 and 35.  Do you need to be broke for this book to work for you?  I don&#8217;t think so.  I wasn&#8217;t even in credit card debt when I picked up the book, and I already had an emergency fund in place.  Sounds like I was in a great financial position, right?  Well, not really.  I didn&#8217;t know how to plan ahead.  I didn&#8217;t know anything about Roth IRAs, and I wasn&#8217;t sure how to best look at retirement, when it&#8217;s decades away.  I don&#8217;t know enough about mortgages or investing.  This book explains all of that and more.  Sure, there are sections that perhaps don&#8217;t apply to me, but I still recommend this book to all of my friends.  It answers questions for people just starting out, and for those who have been working for a while, but feel like they&#8217;re not working towards a goal.</p>
<p>This book is arranged very simply, with a new topic each chapter.  Each chapter starts with The Lowdown.  This section features very clearly presented information about what you need to know about that chapter&#8217;s topics.  Some of these sections are more detailed than others, and I found myself reading and re-reading the section on investing, just to be sure that I understood every bit of it.  The next section is called Strategy Sessions.  These are set up in question/answer style, with a problem, a solution, and then details on how to actually achieve the solution.  Finally, the chapters end with the Playback section.  This is a bulleted recap of what you need to do for the topic discussed in that chapter.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight:bold;">Website:</span><br />The book includes a code that you can use to sign up for the YF&amp;B section of Suze&#8217;s website.  I think this is a really great feature of this book and of many other of her books.  The website features a number of resources designed to work with the YF&amp;B book.  The first is an action plan.  For many YF&amp;Bers, being faced with all these things that they need to do in regards to their finances can be overwhelming.  In her book, Suze breaks these things into Action Steps, but if you read the book in one sitting, you will find yourself faced with a number of Action Steps.  That&#8217;s where the website comes in.  You answer a few questions about your current situation and the site sets out Action Steps for you.  You can&#8217;t move to the next one until you complete the one before.  This is an easy and simple way to prioritize.</p>
<p>The site also features book updates, which I find crucial for personal finance books.  Things change!  The site currently only has three additions/corrections to the book, but I still feel much more comfortable knowing that someone is tracking the book for changes.</p>
<p>Throughout the book, you will find references to Resources available online.  The resources section covers information on student loans, retirement and Roth IRA information (including suggestions on where to open and what to invest in), funds and ETFs, home buying, and much more.  I found this section very helpful when looking at opening a Roth IRA.  I knew that I should be looking for a discount broker or no-load funds, and that at least for now, I wanted to invest in index funds.  But even knowing that, I still didn&#8217;t know where to go.  Suze doesn&#8217;t tell you where to go.  But she does provide a list of discount brokers and no-load fund companies.  It was a great place to start.</p>
<p>Additionally, there are a number of PF calculators and a forum for questions.  I admit that I haven&#8217;t really used either of these features, but it&#8217;s nice to know they&#8217;re there.</p>
<p>So that&#8217;s the intro to YF&amp;B.  Next week, I&#8217;ll start my discussion of Chapter 1.</p>
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		<title>Emotions and Money</title>
		<link>http://www.countingmypennies.com/2008/02/15/emotions-and-money/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Oprah, I&#8217;ve been reading Suze Orman&#8217;s &#8220;Women and Money: Owning the Power to Control Your Destiny.&#8221;  I&#8217;m a huge fan of Suze&#8217;s show, and I continually recommend &#8220;The Money Book For the Young, Fabulous, and Broke&#8221; to all my friends.  I&#8217;ve had &#8220;Women and Money&#8221; on my wishlist for some time [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Oprah, I&#8217;ve been reading Suze Orman&#8217;s &#8220;<a id="rff_" title="Owning the Power to Control Your Destiny" href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FWomen-Money-Owning-Control-Destiny%2Fdp%2F0385519311%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1203082709%26sr%3D8-1&amp;tag=elbowglitterfinance-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325" target="_blank">Women and Money: Owning the Power to Control Your Destiny</a>.&#8221;  I&#8217;m a huge fan of Suze&#8217;s show, and I continually recommend &#8220;<a id="o6f6" title="The Money Book For the Young, Fabulous, and Broke" href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FMoney-Book-Young-Fabulous-Broke%2Fdp%2FB000V5WGTC%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1203082567%26sr%3D8-1&amp;tag=elbowglitterfinance-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325" target="_blank">The Money Book For the Young, Fabulous, and Broke</a>&#8221; to all my friends.  I&#8217;ve had &#8220;Women and Money&#8221; on my wishlist for some time now, but have been trying to control my spending, so I decided to wait on this book.  Good thing too, since Oprah offered it for free download yesterday.  Thank you, Oprah!  Maybe I shouldn&#8217;t complain so much about your show.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m only a few chapters in, but I&#8217;m quickly realizing just how much this book applies to me.  While I feel that I am responsible with my money, I shy away from taking the initiative to actually better my financial situation in many instances.</p>
<p>For example, one of the things Suze mentioned is that many women won&#8217;t push their bosses for a raise.  Even if they find out that they are paid less money than some of their counterparts, they won&#8217;t fight for what they deserve.  Sure, some of us will go to our supervisor and ask, but when the supervisor says &#8220;Well, we just can&#8217;t afford that right now,&#8221; or &#8220;We&#8217;ll talk about it at your review,&#8221; we just take that answer at face value and don&#8217;t do any thing else about it.  I do the same thing.  When I was hired at my current job, I was promised a specific raise after I&#8217;ve been here a year.  There were five of us hired with the same deal.  Now, we&#8217;re hearing that may not be the case.  It frustrates me, but at the same time, what am I doing about it?  Not a whole lot.  I also discovered that I am one of the lowest paid members of my team.  I&#8217;m also one of the newest, so that&#8217;s not entirely unexpected, but in terms of education and skills, I do stand out a bit.  This should be something else to include in my argument for the promised raise.  But again, I just don&#8217;t bring it up.  I&#8217;ve mentioned it once, and then sort of let it get swept under the rug. </p>
<p>Therefore, a goal for the coming weeks is to talk with my supervisor about this situation and find out exactly what is going on and what I can do to prove that I deserve this raise.</p>
<p>I also realize that I am entirely too generous with my money, even when I don&#8217;t want to be.  Right now, I have a friend (who is really more of an acquaintance) staying with me while she job hunts.  She doesn&#8217;t have a timeline for how long she will be staying with me, but I think it could be up to a month (or even more).  I don&#8217;t mind that she&#8217;s staying in my home.  I have an extra bedroom and I am happy to share my space.  I don&#8217;t expect her to pay rent at all.</p>
<p>It is starting to bother me, however, that she isn&#8217;t really pitching in for groceries.  Admittedly, this may be bothering me because this month, I decided to really tighten my budget now that I&#8217;m using the YNAB system, and because I do have some larger expenses coming up that I am saving for.  After she had been here a few days and hadn&#8217;t purchased any groceries (and even went with me to the store, watched me buy the groceries to make dinner, and didn&#8217;t pitch in), I casually asked her how she wanted to deal with groceries, and she said she was going to pick up some things.  That&#8217;s all fine and good, except that she still expects me to provide her dinner, which for me, tends to be the most expensive meal of the day.  And even though it grates on me that she expects me to provide for her, I still don&#8217;t say anything.</p>
<p>Not only is this not great for my financial health, it also isn&#8217;t good for our relationship.  Because of this, I am letting her other habits grate on me as well.  Maybe I would be more willing to put up with the fact that she doesn&#8217;t do dishes or use coasters and gets food on the floor if she were paying her own way.</p>
<p>Or maybe she&#8217;s just a bad houseguest.  Either way, I should say something about the fact that right now, my budget doesn&#8217;t allow for me to be feeding two people instead of just one.  I shouldn&#8217;t let my emotions play into it.  I owe it to myself to be honest about my finances.  I think I feel some sort of responsibility to take care of her, as she is a guest in my house, which is something women are all too quick to do, and then we just get taken advantage of.  I need to learn to stand up for myself and for my bank account</p>
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		<title>Free Suze Orman Book!</title>
		<link>http://www.countingmypennies.com/2008/02/14/free-suze-orman-book/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Beachgirl&#8217;s Budget Blog, I just found out that Oprah is giving away free PDF copies of Suze Orman&#8217;s book &#8220;Women and Money.&#8221; But hurry! The book will only be available until 7:00 CST February 14 (TODAY!). You can download the book here.</p>
<p>Also, there&#8217;s a new article by Suze on Yahoo Finance.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to <a href="http://beachgirlsbudgetblog.blogspot.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Beachgirl&#8217;s Budget Blog</a>, I just found out that Oprah is giving away free PDF copies of Suze Orman&#8217;s book &#8220;Women and Money.&#8221; But hurry! The book will only be available until 7:00 CST February 14 (TODAY!). You can download the book <a href="http://flv.oprah.com/suze_orman_eng.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>Also, there&#8217;s a <a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/moneymatters/65848;_ylt=AuT5mw6AGo2ZvRm8WNNGRl0KwNIF">new article by Suze</a> on Yahoo Finance.</p>
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		<title>Suze Orman&#8217;s Top 10 List for 2008</title>
		<link>http://www.countingmypennies.com/2007/12/30/suze-ormans-top-10-list-for-2008/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>On last night&#8217;s Suze Orman Show, Suze gave a top ten list of things to do for 2008:</p>
<p>Suze&#8217;s Top Ten List for 2008

Try to get out of credit card debt.
Begin a 6-8 month emergency fund
Sign up for your 401(k) to the point of the match, then fund a Roth IRA
Look for the best buy on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On last night&#8217;s Suze Orman Show, Suze gave a top ten list of things to do for 2008:<span style="font-weight:bold;"></p>
<p>Suze&#8217;s Top Ten List for 2008</span>
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<li>Try to get out of credit card debt.</li>
<li>Begin a 6-8 month emergency fund</li>
<li>Sign up for your 401(k) to the point of the match, then fund a Roth IRA</li>
<li>Look for the best buy on a home.  Purchase only if you have enough for a 10%-20% down payment and qualify for a 30-15 year fixed mortgage.</li>
<li>Never loan money or co-sign for someone</li>
<li>Annuities &#8211; single premium deferred annuity is ok, but never buy variable annuities within a retirement account</li>
<li>Buy individual bonds, not bond funds</li>
<li>Get a will and a living revocable trust</li>
<li>Get term life insurance only</li>
<li>Buy no-load mutual funds only.</li>
</ol>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty good on most of these, but not all of them, and it&#8217;s a good goal to work towards.  I do still rent my home, but mainly because I&#8217;m not sure that I plan to stay in this area long term.  I&#8217;m giving myself 2 years, and then I&#8217;ll make a decision.  The other thing that I absolutely need to do this year is set up a will.  I really should have done this years ago, but like so many people, I don&#8217;t like to think about it.  My uncle is an estate lawyer and would do it for me, but I only see him on holidays, and well, at Christmas, the last thing I want to think about is my demise.</p>
<p>So that is my goal from this list.  How about you?</p>
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