I was talking to my 87-year-old grandfather about the economy the other day. He’s got one of those great stories – fought in WWII, came home, married his sweetheart, started working at a local company, never quit. He still works there half-days, just to give him something to do.
He and my grandmother have always lived fairly frugally. Grandma has always tracked prices on everything, to the point where you open the pantry and find the price of all the food written on the package. They wear clothing til it falls apart, then fix it, then wear it some more. Of course, saying that makes it sound like they’re wearing rags. They dress quite well. But Grandpa’s theory is that an old faded t-shirt is just fine for mowing the lawn, and hey, if you need to run to the store to pick something up while mowing the lawn, why change?
Not to say they’re overly frugal. They just spend their money where it’s important. They like to go out to nice dinners every so often. They used to travel quite a bit. They go to the theater and get the good seats, not the nosebleed seats. They spend their money on things that are important to them, and that’s how they’re happiest.
I was talking to Grandpa about the sorry state of my retirement accounts, but told him that at the earliest, I would be eligible to retire at around age 57. As a man who worked 30 years past that, he laughed, of course. We joked about Social Security being a Ponzi scheme, as I’m among the many who aren’t convinced it’s going to be around by the time I retire. As the child of parents at the tail end of the baby-boom generation, I’m okay with that. Sure, I’m paying in money that I won’t see, but it will be used for people like my parents and others. In some way, it saves me from paying out of pocket to take care of them.
His opinion was that the government screwed up. Social Security kicks in too early. In his eyes, when the program started, it was designed for people near the end of their lives. Now people are living longer, partly thanks to programs like Medicaid and Medicare. Clearly, making people healthier so they lived longer wasn’t the brightest plan.
All right, so he was clearly joking. But he did have one interesting point. People are living longer. What if Social Security kicked in later? Would we be better off or not? From the point of view of someone who may never get Social Security, I’d rather get it later than not at all, but I’m sure every single Baby Boomer out there would disagree wholeheartedly. After all, they’re much more likely to be able to get the promised use from the program.
It’s an interesting thought.
Actually, I think that needs to happen. Baby Boomers that think that they will get to retire so early haven’t been paying attention to what is going on with Social Security. People aren’t just living longer – IMO, they are still very much capable of working past 65. I don’t think that was the case when that age was agreed to.
And while I would love to be able to count on it for us when the husband and I are 65, we aren’t. We see it as “extra.” We plan on saving enough of our own money for retirement. We still have 30 or more years to do just that.
I’m not counting on it at all, but the whole thing is just a numbers game. The boomer generation is much bigger than my generation (I’m 36), so tbe Social Security pile of money is going to take a beating when the boomers all retire.
The generation behind me is much bigger, so if Social Security can last through the boomers retirement, it should be funded really strong again for my retirement. I swear the whole thing is a government endorsed Ponzi scheme.
Isn’t there already talk of gradually moving the age to 70?
I think SS was a great idea when it first came out – support workers in their old age. But today’s younger workers already have so many tools to plan for their own retirement, isn’t it time we took charge of our own future? I also hope to retire before 60 (25 now), but I don’t intend to have the government finance it. SS will be a nice windfall for us if it’s still around when we hit our 60’s (or 70’s!).